Since I sent around our Best Of Welsh & Borders producers the Welsh Government list of funding to food festivals, there have been a lot more questions being asked as to what many of them do with their money. Well I have to say there’s no point asking me, if they want to know they must ask the organisers themselves. As you would expect they all work very differently, have vastly varying priorities and obviously varying amounts of experience of putting on festivals.
I have no idea at all what guidance or maybe restrictions that the government sets on how ‘their’ money is spent, or if that happens. But I do think it is more than time that some priorities were laid down for funded festivals. I think we can all agree that food festivals must have food as their core activity which must therefore mean that food is the priority, which means that producers are paramount. Sadly we know that at many events this is simply not the case. But unless producers vote with their feet and don’t attend, or Wag makes an effort to improve all festivals, producers are in a difficult situation.
One suggestion that I have been thinking about is that a well established, professional producer is invited onto their local festival committee. Their role will be to inform the committee the basics that traders must have and I’m looking at electric that doesn’t fail within the first hour – that’s even if it gets connected in the first place, and traders are not paying through the nose for the ‘honour’ of having that vital power supply. A couple of portable toilets placed near the traders – just for them, so that those having to work solo don’t have to waste precious selling time going on a country hike to take a natural break! They could help on layout of stands as they have a must better idea of traffic flow than anyone, noise levels for music, parking vans, loading and off-loading, number of similar stands – these are all issues that can make a traders life easier or make them feel that this is the last time they waste their hard earned cash at this event. I’m sure they’ll also have lots of additional ideas that would make their event special, not just for them, but for the public too. The trader representative could be the official spokesperson for the event and maybe this would will take pressure away from the organisers and help the event run more smoothly.
There always seem to be complaints from traders about festivals but after running them for years shouldn’t the bulk of the troubles have now been sorted? I know that festivals are run basically by volunteers, but the fact no-one can run away from is that festivals are much-needed income for traders. They are not attending to pay for an exotic holiday, they’re attending to pay their mortgages, pay their council tax and feed their kids. I’m positive that life for organisers would be much easier if communication was better between them and the traders. I am still wondering why traders pay their money but quite often have no idea where they will be sited. Would it be too difficult for organisers to issue a site plan with the tradestands shown and traders can book where they wish. Of course that means that there would be some flexibility in stand prices as those with better traffic flow would be charged at a premium, whilst those on the out edges would be slightly cheaper. Would this work? I know I have had lots of moans about Abergavenny again this year not only from those that couldn’t get accepted but those who have been placed in an area they’d rather not be in. Some organisers have told me that a few traders could be difficult and although you do occasionally get unprofessional guys on the circuit, I just explain, quite patiently, that this is their livelihood and the majority just want to earn some decent money.
At an event this year with very low attendance, I was asked what this festival has done about advertising and marketing. Well that was another question I couldn’t answer apart from the fact they weren’t advertising with Welsh Country, which meant that wouldn’t have sent details around our Best Of Welsh & Borders producers, put up on Welsh Country website or done any editorial in a relevant issue. So I would assume it was local advertising, if any. I’m sure I’m right on my guess that traders, when they book their space, ask what Promotion & Marketing the organisers are going to do, they simply hope and trust that the organisers will have a plan on how to get people into the event – fingers crossed!!!
I’m not 100% sure, but I understand that organisers are allowed to use their own judgement on Promotion & Marketing as they are not directed by Wag, but I must finish off by sharing this story with you. As we finish off our September/October issue, we contacted Conwy Food Festival to see if they wished to work with us, but were told: no we get lots of local editorial and the Welsh Government look after us very well with funding.” Well there’s lots of truth in that with Wag giving them £41k this year, the same amount as they received last year – so lucky Conwy, no budget cuts there, wonder if tradestand prices have come down as they are so financially well looked by Wag.
Abergavenny,Cardiffand Conwy were festivals I have highlighted as being fortunate in not having their funding cut this year and querying why. It was only when we downloaded the Miller Research report that to get around high funding for these three festivals, that they are now classed as ‘Flagship National Events’ and so I guess they can continue to feel confident that Wag will continue to look at this trio very well. Think to summarise it’s down to the producers to speak up if they are not happy and make suggestions for improvements, but I know a few are reluctant to do this as they feel they wont get a stand the following year of be stuck out on the edge. I don’t wish to say they can’t win, I simply think we must just find ways to improve.
what a mess
August 18, 2011 at 11:44 am
what a mess we are in with festivals and funding
you seem to have opened a can of worms but I’m not sure how we get this sorted. This funding shambles has gone on for years and just seems to get worse unless your festival face fits.’
I thought the festival report would help us but the parts I’ve read I don’t agree with and I’m convince they never did sums at school because they don’t add up either.
A lot of money spent and I’m certain we’ve learnt nothing new, lots of fluff, lots of incorrect facts and very few people responded to this survey considering over 50 festivals were covered.
Fed up
August 18, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Good points in the above blog – maybe it is up to us producers to force the hand of the festival organisers so they take some notice of us. So, bearing this in mind, I contacted a local festival which we attended last year, but had not heard anything about this years festival. I asked what advertising they were doing to be met by a puzzled silence, and then a muttered “some”. The web site is not up and the festival is in a couple of weeks! I had not seen anything advertised although was on the look out to see if the festival was actually running, although they have got funding!
I was then told they had taken a concession on cooked food, and no one else would be allowed to cook. So much for supporting local businesses! I just hope it is not a burger van from England!
why
August 19, 2011 at 10:01 am
Why don’t we traders ask about advertising? It’s something I have not thought about until reading this. Fed Up has shown know-how in asking, but not sure which festival she asked about. If they’ve got funding are they allowed to ignore advertising? From what I read on here it seems they can do whatever they like once WE have given them our money. How can the festival be in a couple of weeks and not have a website up? What on earth are wag doing to monitor organisers. It seems like nothing, as usual.
If I was Fed up, I’d take this up with Wag and ask them these questions and about the event taking a concession on cooked food. There’s lots of us traders that do cooked food at these events, so why are we not allowed to go? Wag get your act together and stop these things happening. You’re supposed to be working for us but from our side it doe not feel like it. Leave your steel & glass tower in Aber and give us some help, whilst we are still able to trade.
Thanks for doing this site. It’s quite a talking point at festivals. You are saying what many of us are thinking and are too worried to voice our concerns to Wag. Think Fed up should have named this festival and maybe Kath would have queried it. She’s the lady that will not put up with Wag’s bully boy tactics, brill she’s on our side.
union time
August 19, 2011 at 1:56 pm
I’ve read on here somewhere about a union or group for traders but annoyed now I can’t find where I read about it. I’ve never liked unions, but a group of traders should at last be able to start a dialogue with wag. If we still can’t get our voice heard then we can set up a meeting with Minister Ms Hart.
we can’t keep on like this. the bonus over the last few years is we know welsh country is behind us and those of us in their best of welsh listing get so much information through that in my opinion it’s the best value for money, even in these tight times. The magazine has made such an impact and now this site has shown just how many traders are sick to the back teeth of wag and their poor attitude to traders. It’s time for us to make them change their bad attitude and lack of understanding as to how we earn our money. Maybe a job swap would be a good idea so wag can learn a little more. They’d also be able to understand how many working days are in our week, certainly not 5 as in theirs. ..
festivals for producers
August 25, 2011 at 1:33 pm
It is about time that organisers realised that these are run firstly for producers. I’m not sure if it happens in other sectors, maybe it does, but we pay up front for a festival, months early and we don’t know where we’ll be sited and for this pleasure we all pay the same rate. There’s no discount for a rubbish pitch and no premium to pay for a good pitch either. Then we have no idea where the festival is going to advertise, how many banners they are going to use, is the town and the area behind the event? We are still trusting these guys which is no longer an option when it is our livelihood.
how do we get things changed for the better?
meet the minister
August 25, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I’ve been told some producers met Elin Jones not sure when but it was ages ago, well isn’t it time someone set up a meeting with the new Minister?
maybe that’s a way to make progress as the civil servant way doesn’t work